Family

Est. 1966

Original artwork for this archive: five figures in silhouette on a stage, backlit by a broad glow

Family/The Band

Family Band Members and Every Lineup Change: Roger Chapman, Ric Grech and the Nine Others

Eleven players passed through in seven years. One was there for all of it, the bass chair changed hands four times, and none of the Family band members were related to each other - unlike most bands with family members in them.

11Members
5Original lineup
4Bassists
4At the 2013 reunion
1Constant

The Five Original Family Band Members

The Family band members who walked out of The Farinas in 1966, and the instrument list that explains everything the band did afterwards.

Roger Chapman, photographed in 1974

Roger Chapman

1966 onward · vocals, harmonica, saxophone

Returned for the 2013 reunion.

Photo 1974 · TimDuncan · CC BY 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons

A drawn plate of the guitar

John “Charlie” Whitney

1966 onward · guitar, sitar, keyboards

Ric Grech, photographed in 1969

Ric Grech

1966–1969 · bass, cello, violin, vocals

Left mid-tour in 1969 to join Blind Faith. Died 1990.

Photo 1969 · Island Records · Public domain via Wikimedia Commons

A drawn plate of the saxophone

Jim King

1966–1969 · saxophone, harmonica, piano

Replaced in 1969. Died 2012.

A drawn plate of the drums

Harry Ovenall

1966–1967 · drums, percussion

Left over the shift from R&B towards psychedelia, and over how the group was run.

From the record

Five players, and only two saw it out

Chapman and Whitney were there from the Leicester clubs in 1966 to the last night in 1973. Ovenall left within a year, Grech and King both went in 1969.

Who Came After

Rob Townsend, photographed in 2010s

Rob Townsend

1967 onward · drums, percussion

Replaced Harry Ovenall. Returned for the 2013 reunion.

Photo 2010s · Mark Kent · CC BY-SA 2.0 via Wikimedia Commons

John Weider, photographed in 1967

John Weider

1969–1971

Replaced Ric Grech. Left in 1971 to join Stud. Died 2025.

Photo 1967 · F. van Geelen · CC BY-SA 3.0 NL via Wikimedia Commons

From the record

Four bassists in four years

Grech to 1969, Weider to 1971, Wetton for a year, then Cregan. Every change lands on a different record.

A drawn plate of the keyboards

John “Poli” Palmer

1969–1972 · keyboards, synthesisers, flute

Replaced Jim King. Returned for the 2013 reunion. Died 2025.

John Wetton

1971–1972

Replaced John Weider. Turned King Crimson down to join Family, then changed his mind in 1972. Died 2017.

Tony Ashton

1972 onward

Replaced John Poli Palmer. Died 2001.

Jim Cregan, photographed in 2016

Jim Cregan

1972 onward · guitar, bass

Replaced John Wetton. Returned for the 2013 reunion.

Photo 2016 · Mark Kieve · CC BY 2.0 via Wikimedia Commons

Original artwork for this archive: four microphone stands of different heights in a row on an empty stage, backlit
Eleven players, four of them on this stage at once · drawn for this archive

From the record

One turned King Crimson down

John Wetton joined Family instead in 1971, then changed his mind about King Crimson a year later and left.

Ric Grech, and the Bassist Problem

Ric Grech played bass, cello and violin and sang, and he was one of the three writers who made the first two records. In the spring of 1969, in the middle of the band’s first American tour, he left to join Blind Faith. John Weider came in at short notice on the recommendation of the tour manager, Peter Grant. Two years later Weider left for Stud and John Wetton took the chair, having turned King Crimson down in order to do it. A year after that Wetton changed his mind about King Crimson, and Jim Cregan replaced him.

Four bassists in four years, and each change lands on a record. Some accounts hold that losing Grech - and then Jim King - is exactly why the family band never made it to the very top: the songwriting engine went from three people to two and the arrangements slowly lost the instruments that had made them strange.

  1. Ric Grech1966–1969Left mid-tour for Blind Faith
  2. John Weider1969–1971Came in at short notice, left for Stud
  3. John Wetton1971–1972Turned King Crimson down, then went
  4. Jim Cregan1972–1973Saw the band out, and came back in 2013

Roger Chapman, the One Constant

Chapman sang on all seven albums, played harmonica and saxophone, and is the only member present from the Leicester clubs in 1966 to the last night at Leicester Polytechnic in 1973. His voice is the reason the band is still discussed: blues and R&B phrasing over arrangements that kept moving underneath him, and a live delivery forceful enough that after the 1969 US tour it simply stopped working for a while.

In 2013 the family band came back with three of them - John “Poli” Palmer, Rob Townsend and Jim Cregan - for what was announced as one night at the O2 Shepherd’s Bush Empire and turned into three more years of shows.

What They Did After Family

The band stopped in October 1973 and four of the eleven went straight into groups people know. Roger Chapman and Charlie Whitney, the two who had been there since the Leicester clubs, carried on together as Streetwalkers. John Wetton finally joined King Crimson - the band he had turned down in 1971 in order to join Family - and later Asia. Rob Townsend went to Medicine Head, then to The Blues Band and The Manfreds, and still plays with the last two.

  • Roger Chapman and Charlie Whitney Streetwalkers The two who had been there from the Leicester clubs kept working together after 1973.
  • John Wetton King Crimson, then Asia The band he had turned down in 1971 to join Family.
  • Rob Townsend Medicine Head, then The Blues Band and The Manfreds He still plays with the last two.

A Note on the Name

Despite it, these were not bands with family members in the usual sense: nobody in this lineup was related to anybody else. The word came from a producer, Kim Fowley, who thought their clothes made them look like mafiosos. If you arrived here looking for genuine bands with family members - siblings, couples, parents and children playing together - there is a separate list of famous family bands in this archive.

Instruments are listed for a player only where the source record states them. For John Weider, John Wetton and Tony Ashton it does not, so the entry says who they replaced and stops there rather than assuming.

Questions about the members

Who were the original Family band members?

Roger Chapman on vocals, harmonica and saxophone; John “Charlie” Whitney on guitar, sitar and keyboards; Ric Grech on bass, cello, violin and vocals; Jim King on saxophone, harmonica and piano; and Harry Ovenall on drums and percussion.

Who was in Family the longest?

Roger Chapman, from 1966 to the final concert in 1973, and again at the reunion shows from 2013. Rob Townsend is next, joining in 1967 after Harry Ovenall left and staying to the end.

Why did Ric Grech leave Family?

He left in the middle of the band’s first American tour in spring 1969 to join Blind Faith. John Weider replaced him at short notice, on the recommendation of the tour manager, Peter Grant.

Was John Wetton in Family before King Crimson?

Yes. Wetton turned King Crimson down in 1971 in order to join Family, replacing John Weider. In 1972 he changed his mind - King Crimson had a new lineup by then - and left. Jim Cregan replaced him.

Which members played the 2013 reunion?

Roger Chapman, John “Poli” Palmer, Rob Townsend and Jim Cregan, with extra musicians brought in for the second night.

Which members of Family have died?

Six of the eleven. Ric Grech in 1990, Tony Ashton in 2001, Jim King in 2012, John Wetton in 2017, and then two in 2025 - John Weider in March and John “Poli” Palmer in July, aged 82.

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